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(8/29/2012 1:19:20 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Please appreciate, Jack, the "personal/personable" - issue is a dichotomy for radio-folk... and is only the tip of the ol' proverbial iceberg. One - the attempt to be "personal" - is an ongoing disaster to those on-air people and writers who would want credibility with and acceptance from their audiences. The other - "personable" - is a paved road with many milk & honey roadside stalls along the way.
Plus, and I have to take you to task for this, the "mumbo-jumbo" reference is a convenient "out" for those who a.) are new to the techniques - most of which I have not revealed. b.) are not yet willing to appreciate them. c.) have not studied and tested them thoroughly. and, d.) have not enjoyed spectacularly successful results from their application - and over time.
As to your other comments about the pirates and beenies wrecking what was, otherwise, a viable and exciting enterprise, we are in full agreement.

- Ronald T. Robinson
(8/29/2012 12:01:50 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Lost me again, Ron.

The double negatives don't exactly help: "the reality of neither the speaker or the listener not knowing that either one is participating in the speaker/listener dynamic at any given time...". Gonna take a while for me to parse that one.

Who're you listening to, with "I'm glad you're listening."? Gag. You're right - that's beginner stuff. Personable, but not personal. Personal is: "Wow! That's still my all-time favorite BeeGee's tune! Tell me I'm not alone with that". The unspoken message of "I love my job" is a world away from "I'm glad you're listening."

That being said, I don't expect I'll be able to pull you away from all that pseudopscych mumbo-jumbo. Maybe if the conglomerates would give their PDs time to train and nuture their air staff, let creative types create good programming, radio would look a bit more promising. Until that happens, all the MBAs and PhDs aren't going to undo what the beancounters have created.

- Jack Mindy
(8/28/2012 2:25:50 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
While more exacting explanations are in the archives, Jack, I have to challenge that an occasional "I feel like you're talking to me"-comment from a listener is hardly worthwhile.
Actually, given the reality of neither the speaker or the listener not knowing that either one is participating in the speaker/listener dynamic at any given time, the report gets a little spooky.
The simple time-constrained answer though, Jack, is as follows.
The goal of a broadcast communicator is to be, among other attributes, "personable". This, as opposed to "personal". Huge distinctions.
Plus, Jack, I would be less than sincere if I didn't accept that, over the years of your being on the air, you were attempting to be both and were often successful.
However, only one - "personable" - has legs. The other crashes and distorts so many other listener's real-time experience as to be toxic.
Let's say I pop the mic and say "... and I'm glad you're listening." 1.) I don't know who, specifically, is listening. 2.) The listener knows, at some cognizant level, that I don't know they, specifically, are listening and that my comments do not apply to them because of reason #1. 3.) I come off sounding like a mind-reading goof. 4.) This was never my intention as I am as sincere as the next guy.
Thanks to you, Jack, for providing an opportunity to respond in a direct manner as this is a communication between Jack and Ron. I know it. You know it and readers know it. Hardly like the radio at all. :)

- Ronald T. Robinson
(8/28/2012 12:49:25 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
You lost me, Ron.

In your 12:06 response, you say my fairly typical response “constitutes neither a useful report of someone else's, subjective experience or an accurate description of a broadcast experience.” No, it’s not someone else’s report, it’s MINE. Whether it’s useful is, of course, your opinion. And it very definitely IS an accurate description of MY broadcast experience. How can you claim otherwise?

Move closer on the bus??? If a seedy drunk was spouting garbage on the bus, yes, one would likely move away. If it was the trusted, friendly guy-next-door, you’d move closer because you find him interesting and expect him to make the ride more pleasant. That was the goal. It worked for me.

In your 12:40 addendum, you toss this in: “employing an indirect form of communications through an indirect medium”. Can there be indirect communications in a direct medium, or direct communications in an indirect medium? Only Stephen Hawking knows for sure.

I hope you don’t recommend your model air staff use such long, convoluted sentences as you seem to prefer. There’s no necessity to dumb down one’s conversation, but good communication calls for an ease of understanding that can include all your audience - one listener at a time

- Jack Mindy
(8/27/2012 12:40:21 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
By the way, by employing an indirect form of communications through an indirect medium (radio), even more people are likely to have the same experience as Jack's report alludes.
(This is an irony that I usually don't profess as it's not a particularly useful phenomena anyway. Besides, making that claim tends to frighten the locals... and the livestock, as well.)

- Ronald T. Robinson
(8/27/2012 12:06:58 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Jack's response is fairly typical. However, it constitutes neither a useful report of someone else's, subjective experience or an accurate description of a broadcast experience.
Nor is the alternative about communicating coldly to an unspecified group.
Further, when a listener talks about a personality talking directly to them, personally, does one move closer to them on the bus... or further away? :)

- Ronald T. Robinson
(8/27/2012 11:26:35 AM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Rob claims the “one-to-one” liturgy is "grossly inaccurate dogma". Hmmmm.... In my 50+ years in/on radio I've had many people tell me they felt like I was talking "just to me". No one ever said "I really loved feeling like I was a member of your massive audience".
- Jack Mindy


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