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Radio 2012. Which Way Is Up?



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(7/14/2012 1:48:19 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Re: "They are identical!"

They are not. Yours is filled with typos, and I won't allow you to paint me as illiterate. (This is supposed to be a quote.)

As for my remarks, they are directed at your content.

How about you addressing my original comments, instead of keeping this insane argument public.

Lose the anger and discuss the two points I mentioned; about this not being the Gold Rush, and your erroneous comment on GM and Facebook.

As a bonus, tackle the "Mixing radio with interactive advertising isn't as easy as is being portrayed; which is the problem that folks like Mr. Gifford don't understand, and the reasons why his style of selling radio advertising continues to diminish in value."

- Ken Dardis
(7/14/2012 11:59:53 AM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Ken...

For anyone following this, did you really believe
they're dumb enough not to check my wording of your quote against your wording of your quote?. They are identical! Enough of the shell game, Ken.

Maybe, finally, you get the point: in the future see if you can reserve your remarks to the author's content...without purposely insulting them.

Giff

- Dave Giff Gifford
(7/14/2012 4:47:01 AM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Dave:

You are a very angry man, and still cannot get a quote right. Here it is: "I also worked with the Google implementation team to establish its online audio ad delivery system, sat on the board of DiMA (look it up) for 5 years, and have actively lobbied in Washington on behalf of streaming radio multiple times with Tim Westergren (Pandora)."

And I like it just fine.

Please, try to address the original comments instead of taking this insane argument more public.

Folks can learn about me at http://audiographics.com/about.htm

And I make no apology for my radio experience, or knowledge.

This tirade really needs to come to an end at some point.

- Ken Dardis
(7/13/2012 11:07:14 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
And now you want to compound the felony.

How deep a hole do you want to dig for yourself?

Here is your exact quote, word-for-word, which I
shall email to RADIO INK for confirmation.

"I also worked with the Google implementation to establish its online audio ad delivery system, sat on the board of DiMA (look itv up) for 5 years, and have actively lobbied in Washington on behalf of streaming radio multiple times with Toim Westergren )Pandora)."

How do you like your exact quote now?


- Dave Giff Gifford
(7/13/2012 9:59:52 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
Re: "on behalf of Tim Westergren (Pandora)".

Jeez Dave. On top of a few insanely angry emails to me, you can't even get the quote right. I mentioned nothing about "on behalf of Tim Westegren." The correct quote is "...and [I] have actively lobbied in Washington on behalf of streaming radio..." Yes, Tim Westergren was also there. That's what the word "with" means.

As for "being a producer," perhaps it would be best to add all the additional items I listed out for you.

Please. This tirade is getting old. and now you want to take it public?

Wouldn't it be better to address my original comment?

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(7/13/2012 8:17:21 PM)   Flag as inappropriate content
The above comments were not written by a Radio
owner, GM or SM, although he was an AE briefly
(it's not for everyone!). Background? Talent, Music Director, Programming, although he did lobby several times in D.C. "on behalf of Tim Westergren (Pandora)". Besides being a producer
of Radio/TV commercial, to be fair, he IS a recognized Internet expert. For full disclosure go to rbr.com and read his article on sales...an article so dated he could have written it in 1996.


- Dave Giff Gifford
(7/12/2012 7:40:37 AM)   Flag as inappropriate content
These words are a great example of why radio is behind the curve. Instead of taking what is available and understanding how to use it properly, the author appears to have recently learned the <font size> <font color> and <center> attributes for HTML and overdoses in its use.

I've been around radio advertising for a lot of years and can't get close to understanding his message.

There are more than 2 miscues here, but all that's needed is to point to these:

1) "Never mind General Motors dropped facebook because 'it didn’t work'." Please, Mr. Gifford, research what happened with GM and FB - you'll discover that this is not the case at all. GM is considering a return to FB advertising - http://bit.ly/PmDw8x

2) As for "In 2012, Selling Interactive is Radio's 'Gold Rush'." The Gold Rush happened in 1999 - http://bit.ly/Lbzgme - and radio missed it.

Mixing radio with interactive advertising isn't as easy as is being portrayed; which is the problem that folks like Mr. Gifford don't understand, and the reasons why his style of selling radio advertising continues to diminish in value.

- Ken Dardis


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